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fulfilled the conversion of the First Volume of the Database of Ascher (AS010-AS200) XLS format

Siblings,

Tonight, I turned the conversion n.1 Data Book of Ascher (AS010-AS200) to the XLS format. Data are available at:

http://www.geocities.com/denniskriz/khipu/data/MASTERBOOK-Ascher-Ascher-Database.xls

now missing the conversion of the second volume that has the data quipus AS201-AS215. Dennis


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quipus added 25 more (up to AS175) to the master file database Ascher-Ascher On the use

Siblings,

quipus added 25 more (up to AS175) to the master file in XLS format database Ascher-Ascher. Missing just 40 more!

Dennis
http://www.geocities.com/denniskriz/khipu/data/MASTERBOOK-Ascher-Ascher-Database.xls

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prehistoric / historic nodes in China

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An excerpt from Lydia Chen, Chinese Knotting [Knot Chinese] (Periplus Editions 2003), p. 25-26:

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Traducion ...]: mia "Unfortunately, the Chinese knot, as old as can be, never was the subject of scientific study. Instead, it remained a marginal art that was often overlooked past. All we have in our hands are examples of tying for the last part of the period Ching and the Republican era, creations of our ancestors and their parents. The complexity of these knots and the ingenuity of their designs Express the culmination of a long and continuous artistic tradition. Indirect traces of this ancient lore appear from time to time, and the inferences that out of these bits of evidence suggest that the origin of Chinese knotting existed before the arrival of Chinese writing.

"The first evidence of Chinese knots comes from the Paleolithic era, makes between seventy to one hundred thousand years. The artifacts found from this time in a cave in Choukoutien include several instruments awl-shaped with holes at one end. Archaeologists claim that they were used for sewing, implying that thread and some rudimentary form knot and should exist.

"Subtle and humble as this principle can be isolated, there is no doubt that the Yellow River people were in need of highly developed knotting techniques. Commenting on the Trigrad Book of Changes (I Ching) found that "in prehistoric times, events were recorded by knots at later ages, books were used for this." In the second century AD, the scholar Hsuan Cheng Han extended the time this happened to write that great events were recorded by large knots and small knots meant ore events importance. Of course, no examples of prehistoric exist.

"The only evidence native of this practice is pictorial representations simple symbolic use of tying in the era of States Wars, from 4 th to 2 nd century BC in the area of \u200b\u200bgoods bronse that age clearly reflects the practice to previous records with knotted ropes. For example, the numbers 10, 20, 30 and 40 were bound [refierense text for a diagram]. The similarity between the figures of the rope and forms for writing numbers is clear. Moreover, these nodes represent abstract concepts simple. The design of the nodes necessarily more complex than were used to record events during prehistoric China should be left to our imagination. But turning a satellite culture, the Ryukyu Islands [including the island of Oquin] of the southeastern coast of China, we can find specific examples of knotted strings used to keep records. Perhaps they reflect the ancient Chinese knots that were used in a similar manner. Examples of the Ryukyu Islands and the numbers in the ancient Chinese bronzes lend credence to the assertion that at least part of the Chinese written language was developed from these knotted strings. At least, establish the fact that the tie was a form abstracted from symbolic communication that anticipates the I Ching. "

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reference to the ancient use of knots in Scripture China (Taoist) of Lao Tzu

The Tao te Ching the Taoist philosopher Lao Tzu: Chapter 80



A small state with few people.
If there are attachments for ten and a hundred men,
unused,
If the people fear death, as it does not move away.
Although there are boats and carriages,
that no where to go with them.
Although no weapons and armor,
that there are occasions when displaying them.
The people return to the use of rope knots.

Enjoy your meal, consider
beautiful their outfits,
they are satisfied with their dwellings,
and happy with their customs.
While neighboring states within the reach of sight,
and dogs barking and cocks crowing was heard from the other state,
people grow old and die without visiting with neighbors. Dennis


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Barazan (warazan) - straw Oquinava account (an island south of Japan)

Siblings,

In a powerpoint presentation brought to a recent symposium at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) on the theme of the quipus, Jean-Jacques Quisquater of the Universite Catholique de Louvain, Belgium, noted that the ancient use of knotted string instruments like quipus was the diffuse over a large part of the Pacific Ocean including by indigenous peoples of Polynesia and Oquinava.

In Oquinava, instruments, made of straw, have been called nancy (warazan in written English) and were in use by natives of the islands until recent times (until the beginning of the twentieth century).

A photo of a nancy, along with a synopsis (in English) of scientific discourse data in 2000 in Germany Kurayoshi Takara professor at the University of the Ryukyus in Japan are on the link below: http:/

/ www.arithmeum.uni-bonn.de/en/events/20

A Google search for the address of "Kurayoshi Takara" yielded no results.

But I Discovering that Professor Gregory Smits, University of Penn State had recently translated an article by Dr. Takara. As Dr. Smits asked if he could help me in my search for directions to Dr. Takara or otherwise if Dr. Smits I can provide more information about the Oquinava nancy.

Dr. Smits also failed nencontrar an email address for Dr. Takara. But he sent me other information about childbirth from E-mail and gave me permission to put it here:

"[The Barazan] were made from plants, rice straw being the preferred material. The account was made by splicing of stems, using a variety of methods. On the island of Oquinava the nancy were mainly used for calculations, contracts and collect debts. In Miyako and Yaeyama, nancy were mainly used to record the collection of taxes and service issues related to work. They were also sued to record gifts received at the formal ceremonies. After tax "capitation" out abolito in these islands in 1903, the use of nancy soon stop. The spread of basic education was the other factor. Elites Ryukyuan math were aware and did not use the nancy. It has said these tools were a help to people without formal education. "

I asked Dr. Smits for a subpoena on the subject of nancy in the scientific literature, and Dr. Smits noted that almost everything published on this theme in literature has been written only in Japanese.

However, Dr. Smits offered such subpoenas Japanese, "the first is a short article and the second is a book that was reflected in the writings on the subject by Tashiro Yasusada (published in his honor by colleagues Tashiro) "Ishigaki

Hirotaka," Warazan " Jiten Okinawa daihyakka , V. 3 (Okinawa taimusu sha, 1983), P. 1004.

Yasusada Tashiro, Okinawa ketsujou kou [thoughts on the ropes knotted Oquinava] (Youtokusha, 1945, 1977).

thank Dr. Smits! Dennis


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Add 20 more quipus the master file (XLS format) from the Database of

Siblings:

I simply want to inform you that I added 20 more quipus the master file (XLS format) I'm building of the data in the database of Aschers. Data and 2 / 3 of the quipus present in that database are in the master file that I am building.

be able to download the file teacher (in XLS format) to:

http://www.geocities.com/denniskriz/khipu/data/MASTERBOOK-Ascher-Ascher-Database.xls

Dennis
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Aschers subpoena Ta Chuan Chinese comment (from 5-2 century BC) referring to the ancient use of the ropes knotted in China

the Ta Chuan II-13 :

"In the high old, the government continued with the use of knotted cords to preserve memory of things. In the following periods, scholars have replaced the written characters. Through these things, could regulate the actions of the officers, noticing people's affairs. " Dennis


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The Ta Chuan is an ancient commentary on the I Ching which is the great misty and fundamental work of Chinese culture: http://www.wisdom-books.com/ProductDetail.asp?PID=10619

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China - 100.000 years of traditional use of knots? Add 30 quipus

Siblings,

Below are two links on the topic of place the knots in Chinese culture.

The first link suggests using decorative knots exist in China for more than 100.000 years. The second states that before the invention of writing, the Chinese also used knotted strings to record information.

http://www.mresource.com/Fiber/COEPart2/background
_information.htm

http://www.jaars.org/museum/alphabet/people/fu-hsi.htm
Dennis

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more the master file (XLS format) of the quipus Data Base of

Siblings,

You added the data from 30 quipus more (up to AS130) of the database of Ascher my master file (XLS format for this database .)

be able to download the master file (which contains the quipus AS010-AS130) to:

Dennis http://www.geocities.com/denniskriz/khipu/data/MASTERBOOK-Ascher-Ascher-Database.xls

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Aschers Metade I came to in the transcript Data Base of Ascher (up to quipu AS100)

Siblings,

Well, I arrived safely in the quipu AS100 (more or less to the metadata of the database of Ashcer) in my process of transcribing as XLS.

Note well that this transcript PDF format XLS help a lot in the data analysis because the change in format opens the possibility of duplication of nodes / colors of the pendants, etc, far more easily, either using software like Microsoft Excel or Lotus, is the program (in BASIC, C, etc) to write for our own accounts. And in

quipus quipus transcribed are some very interesting, some FLAGS (peqeuñas flags), some with knots (or combinations of nodes) that are outside the system proposed by Leyland said Locke as quipus were used to record data numerically.

Well, there is much to explore in the database ready now, and always with a week or two, the XLS file will grow until the entire data base will be transcribed Aschers.

This XLS file quipus partial transcripts and Database of Aschers is located:

http://www.geocities.com/denniskriz/khipu/data/MASTERBOOK-Ascher-Ascher-Database. xls

Dennis
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The Wampum of the Indians of eastern Canada

Quipu In his book - Il Nodo Parlante dei Misteriosi Incas, Carla Miccinelli relates to the use of wampum (beads belts) as a method of communication between mneumonico Indians of eastern Canada, New York and New England. Examples

political Wampum, incluendo Fundamental Covenant of the League of Peoples of the Iroquois and several of the 17 century concordat between the Catholic Church and Eastern Canada's indigenous peoples are at the link below:

http: / / www.kstrom.net / isk / art / beads / wampum.html

But Lois Scozzari eqcribe in his article "The Significance of wampum to Seventeenth Century Indians in New England" originally published in Connecticutt Review , that is concontraron wampum in the tombs of the chiefs of the Indians of that part of North America.

These practices have a certain similarity practices of the Indians of the Andean peoples. Interesting, no? Dennis


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